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Billy Downer said : “His claim for that relief has been finally adjudicated on by a court of competent jurisdiction,” External link

mg Thursday, June 10, 2021 12:06:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “The real reasons he is being prosecuted are, following the orders of the court in the spy tapes and permanent stay matters, the state believes that it has at least reasonable prospects of success and it is important that the charges against him be tried by this court,” External link

citizen Thursday, June 3, 2021 12:47:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer said : “What such an accused may not do, however, is seek such removal through the device of a special plea in terms of section 106(1)(h) of the Criminal Procedure Act [CPA],” External link

citizen Thursday, June 3, 2021 12:47:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer said ( about Jacob Zuma ) : “Instead the first accused [Zuma] relies on contraventions of his rights and especially his right to a fair trial, which he alleges will ensue if I conduct the prosecution for the state; and, further, on his allegation that I will be an essential witness on the issue of whether his right to a fair trial has been violated,” External link

businessday Wednesday, June 2, 2021 9:37:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer added : “The fact that what the accused is now seeking is, in reality, a permanent stay of prosecution, is confirmed by the fact that, elsewhere in his plea explanation, he describes the current proceedings as an application for the stay of his prosecution,” External link

mg Wednesday, June 2, 2021 6:56:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “His claim for that relief has been finally adjudicated on by a court of competent jurisdiction,” External link

mg Wednesday, June 2, 2021 6:56:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : "The State is ready to put the indictment to the accused," External link

onlinenigeria Wednesday, May 26, 2021 9:24:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : "This authorises me to put the charges before the accused," External link

onlinenigeria Wednesday, May 26, 2021 9:24:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : "The State is ready to put the indictment to the accused," External link

bulawayo24 Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:53:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : "This authorises me to put the charges before the accused," External link

bulawayo24 Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:53:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “The State is ready to put the indictment to the accused,” External link

dailymaverick Wednesday, May 26, 2021 5:06:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “This authorises me to put the charges before the accused,” External link

dailymaverick Wednesday, May 26, 2021 5:06:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “Mr Masuku informed me last week that they intended bringing an application for me as lead prosecutor to be recused. We were promised those papers today. I haven’t seen them yet,” External link

dailymaverick Monday, May 17, 2021 7:26:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “It’s all documents and hard drives pertaining to the entire case. It was all stored electronically over a decade ago. It all has to be changed into a form that can be given to the defence… it is old technology,” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:48:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “It will be foolhardy to think the court will be trial ready by the end of August. Papers are exchanged and then there are more requests,” “If we bring ourselves to the end of August and we aren’t ready, our learned friends will say we are not ready, and there’s a conspiracy to keep this from trial” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:48:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer told : “This is the first time I have seen the letter, despite having asked for it twice,” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:48:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer wrote ( about Jacob Zuma ) : "It is correct, as you suspected, that the State will apply that the indictment be amended to include a number of payments from the Shai/Nkobi group to Mr Zuma that FTI discovered during their review of the old KPMG report and the production of the new report that was handed to the defence in 2019. " External link

manilametro Tuesday, May 26, 2020 9:42:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer informed ( about Schabir Shaik ) : “It is correct, as you suspected, that the State will apply that the Indictment be amended to include a number of payments from the Shaik/Nkobi group to Mr Zuma that FTI discovered during their review of the old KPMG report and the production of the new report that was handed to the defence in 2019. The amendment essentially entails the replacement of the schedule to the Indictment to include the new figures,” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, May 26, 2020 3:48:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer told : “Mr Mabuza was apparently unable to obtain such copies from Mr Mantsha. In the result, Mr Mabuza asked the NPA to provide him with copies directly. This was done on Monday, 18 May 2020. In the circumstances, Mr Zuma’s new defence team has only had access to the docket and report since 18 May 2020,” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, May 26, 2020 3:48:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer said : “In the result, we will request a trial date commencing in the first term of 2021,” “As to the duration, I indicated to you that the trial will last at least two full terms, depending of course on what points the defence raise during the trial” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, May 26, 2020 3:48:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer said : “Zuma’s absence is disappointing … we want Mr Mantsha to tell us what the illness is and why Zuma can’t be here. It is a criminal offence for the accused not to be present if he has been warned in court,” External link

guardian Wednesday, February 5, 2020 12:51:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer said : “This is the procedure in respect of any accused. We treat all accused equally,” External link

thenewage Tuesday, February 4, 2020 8:24:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “This is the procedure in respect of any accused. We treat all accused equally,” External link

mg Tuesday, February 4, 2020 4:12:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “We [the court] don’t know he is sick. We’ve heard reports in the media,” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, February 4, 2020 4:05:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “Zuma’s absence is disappointing, we want Mr Mantsha to tell us what the illness is and why Zuma can’t be here. It is a criminal offence for the accused not to be present if he has been warned in court. The court would have to enquire into reasons for his absence,” External link

iol Tuesday, February 4, 2020 1:58:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “Zuma’s absence is disappointing, we want Mr Mantsha to tell us what the illness is and why Zuma can’t be here. It is a criminal offence for the accused not to be present if he has been warned in court. The court would have to enquire into reasons for his absence,” External link

iol Tuesday, February 4, 2020 12:19:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer stated ( about Jacob Zuma ) : "First, without any substantiation, Zuma alleges that I hate him ... I am blinded by an obsession with his conviction ... I seem nostalgic about the manner in which apartheid prosecutions authorities deal with those they considered guilty or undesirable ... and persons within the NPA may have apartheid withdrawal symptoms," External link

polandsun Friday, October 18, 2019 9:39:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer stated ( about Jacob Zuma ) : "First, without any substantiation, Zuma alleges that I hate him ... I am blinded by an obsession with his conviction ... I seem nostalgic about the manner in which apartheid prosecutions authorities deal with those they considered guilty or undesirable ... and persons within the NPA may have apartheid withdrawal symptoms," External link

irishsun Friday, October 18, 2019 9:13:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer states ( about Jacob Zuma ) : “First, without any substantiation, Zuma alleges that I hate him … I am blinded by an obsession with his conviction … I seem nostalgic about the manner in which apartheid prosecutions authorities deal with those they considered guilty or undesirable … and persons within the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) may have apartheid withdrawal symptoms,” External link

businessday Thursday, May 23, 2019 12:26:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer states ( about Jacob Zuma ) : “First, without any substantiation, Zuma alleges that I hate him … I am blinded by an obsession with his conviction … I seem nostalgic about the manner in which apartheid prosecutions authorities deal with those they considered guilty or undesirable … and persons within the NPA may have apartheid withdrawal symptoms,” External link

businessday Monday, April 29, 2019 8:19:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said ( about Jacob Zuma ) : “I deny the NPA has acted unlawfully, unconstitutionally and in a partisan manner in relation to Zuma’s prosecution,” External link

mg Tuesday, March 12, 2019 8:37:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said ( about Jacob Zuma ) : “But their admissibility against Zuma was uncertain at that stage,” External link

mg Tuesday, March 12, 2019 8:37:00 PM EAT



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Mthunzi Mhaga said ( about Billy Downer ) : “We need to indicate that we hold Mr Downer in high regard as the NPA, because throughout his career as a prosecutor, he has carried himself with integrity. However, we will allow the director of public prosecutions in KwaZulu-Natal to deal with the matter” External link

eyewitness-news Friday, October 22, 2021 1:52:00 PM EAT

Mthunzi Mhaga said ( about Billy Downer ) : “Adv Downer SC is a highly respected prosecutor who has carried himself with integrity throughout his career in the NPA. His reputation speaks for itself. All NPA prosecutors are required to act without fear and favour and should feel confident to deliver on their mandates without fear of intimidation,” External link

news24 Thursday, October 21, 2021 6:13:00 PM EAT

Mthunzi Mhaga says ( about Billy Downer ) : “We need to indicate that we hold Mr Downer in high regard as the NPA because, throughout his career as a Prosecutor, he has carried himself with integrity. However, we will allow the director of public prosecution in the KZN province to deal with the matter as and when the docket has been brought to her attention by the law enforcement agencies,” External link

newsday Thursday, October 21, 2021 5:59:00 PM EAT

Jacob Zuma says ( about Billy Downer ) : “I am advised that in that evidentiary hearing, I am entitled to cross-examine Mr Downer or any NPA official on the criminal conduct or prosecutorial violations on which I contend Downer lacks the necessary title to prosecute. I am advised… I would be entitled to place evidence on which I contend that my fair trial rights and related constitutional rights have been violated by acts of prosecutorial misconduct,” External link

dailymaverick Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:42:00 PM EAT

Lawson Naidoo said ( about Billy Downer ) : “Yes, the application can be successful and Downer can be removed from the case, but the case will still proceed to trial. The NPA will appoint another prosecutor and proceed. This will not lead to an early acquittal,” External link

iol Friday, May 28, 2021 9:17:00 AM EAT

Dali Mpofu said ( about Billy Downer ) : "Mr Downer SC belongs to the group of people in the NPA that believe that political interference in a prosecution should be tolerated," External link

eyewitness-news Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:55:00 PM EAT

Jacob Zuma argues ( about Billy Downer ) : “Downer has lost his independence and impartiality” External link

iol Wednesday, May 26, 2021 4:34:00 PM EAT

Jacob Zuma argues ( about Billy Downer ) : “Downer has lost his independence and impartiality” External link

the-star Wednesday, May 26, 2021 4:24:00 PM EAT

Jacob Zuma writes ( about Billy Downer ) : “In the event that [Billy] Downer SC is removed, I am entitled to be acquitted in terms of section 106(4) of the CPA [Criminal Procedure Act] because my trial cannot be conducted fairly in accordance with the constitution under the circumstances.” External link

businessday Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:38:00 PM EAT

Sam Sole said ( about Billy Downer ) : “In 2008 I had some confidential exchanges with Downer about the investigation. Unbeknown to us they were recorded by the intelligence services, based on a judge’s authorisation under Rica,” External link

dailymaverick Thursday, February 4, 2021 6:57:00 PM EAT

Muzi Sikhakhane responded ( about Billy Downer ) : “Even the 56 pages of particulars… we assume that a man (Downer) seized with this matter for two decades, will be able to answer [timeously]. We think October is a reasonable time,” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:48:00 PM EAT

Muzi Sikhakhane said ( about Billy Downer ) : “Mr Downer’s reasons for [the delays in coming to trial] are shifting as he moves… today it’s Covid-19,” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:48:00 PM EAT

Muzi Sikhakhane said ( about Billy Downer ) : "It's not that we're questioning the role of the Judge President to run a matter. Our client is unhappy about a telephonic conversation between the [Judge Jappie] and Mr Downer," External link

news24 Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:06:00 PM EAT

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Billy Downer

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Billy Downer said : “His claim for that relief has been finally adjudicated on by a court of competent jurisdiction,” External link

mg Thursday, June 10, 2021 12:06:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “The real reasons he is being prosecuted are, following the orders of the court in the spy tapes and permanent stay matters, the state believes that it has at least reasonable prospects of success and it is important that the charges against him be tried by this court,” External link

citizen Thursday, June 3, 2021 12:47:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer said : “What such an accused may not do, however, is seek such removal through the device of a special plea in terms of section 106(1)(h) of the Criminal Procedure Act [CPA],” External link

citizen Thursday, June 3, 2021 12:47:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer said ( about Jacob Zuma ) : “Instead the first accused [Zuma] relies on contraventions of his rights and especially his right to a fair trial, which he alleges will ensue if I conduct the prosecution for the state; and, further, on his allegation that I will be an essential witness on the issue of whether his right to a fair trial has been violated,” External link

businessday Wednesday, June 2, 2021 9:37:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer added : “The fact that what the accused is now seeking is, in reality, a permanent stay of prosecution, is confirmed by the fact that, elsewhere in his plea explanation, he describes the current proceedings as an application for the stay of his prosecution,” External link

mg Wednesday, June 2, 2021 6:56:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “His claim for that relief has been finally adjudicated on by a court of competent jurisdiction,” External link

mg Wednesday, June 2, 2021 6:56:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : "The State is ready to put the indictment to the accused," External link

onlinenigeria Wednesday, May 26, 2021 9:24:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : "This authorises me to put the charges before the accused," External link

onlinenigeria Wednesday, May 26, 2021 9:24:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : "The State is ready to put the indictment to the accused," External link

bulawayo24 Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:53:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : "This authorises me to put the charges before the accused," External link

bulawayo24 Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:53:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “The State is ready to put the indictment to the accused,” External link

dailymaverick Wednesday, May 26, 2021 5:06:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “This authorises me to put the charges before the accused,” External link

dailymaverick Wednesday, May 26, 2021 5:06:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “Mr Masuku informed me last week that they intended bringing an application for me as lead prosecutor to be recused. We were promised those papers today. I haven’t seen them yet,” External link

dailymaverick Monday, May 17, 2021 7:26:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “It’s all documents and hard drives pertaining to the entire case. It was all stored electronically over a decade ago. It all has to be changed into a form that can be given to the defence… it is old technology,” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:48:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “It will be foolhardy to think the court will be trial ready by the end of August. Papers are exchanged and then there are more requests,” “If we bring ourselves to the end of August and we aren’t ready, our learned friends will say we are not ready, and there’s a conspiracy to keep this from trial” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:48:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer told : “This is the first time I have seen the letter, despite having asked for it twice,” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:48:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer wrote ( about Jacob Zuma ) : "It is correct, as you suspected, that the State will apply that the indictment be amended to include a number of payments from the Shai/Nkobi group to Mr Zuma that FTI discovered during their review of the old KPMG report and the production of the new report that was handed to the defence in 2019. " External link

manilametro Tuesday, May 26, 2020 9:42:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer informed ( about Schabir Shaik ) : “It is correct, as you suspected, that the State will apply that the Indictment be amended to include a number of payments from the Shaik/Nkobi group to Mr Zuma that FTI discovered during their review of the old KPMG report and the production of the new report that was handed to the defence in 2019. The amendment essentially entails the replacement of the schedule to the Indictment to include the new figures,” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, May 26, 2020 3:48:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer told : “Mr Mabuza was apparently unable to obtain such copies from Mr Mantsha. In the result, Mr Mabuza asked the NPA to provide him with copies directly. This was done on Monday, 18 May 2020. In the circumstances, Mr Zuma’s new defence team has only had access to the docket and report since 18 May 2020,” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, May 26, 2020 3:48:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer said : “In the result, we will request a trial date commencing in the first term of 2021,” “As to the duration, I indicated to you that the trial will last at least two full terms, depending of course on what points the defence raise during the trial” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, May 26, 2020 3:48:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer said : “Zuma’s absence is disappointing … we want Mr Mantsha to tell us what the illness is and why Zuma can’t be here. It is a criminal offence for the accused not to be present if he has been warned in court,” External link

guardian Wednesday, February 5, 2020 12:51:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer said : “This is the procedure in respect of any accused. We treat all accused equally,” External link

thenewage Tuesday, February 4, 2020 8:24:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “This is the procedure in respect of any accused. We treat all accused equally,” External link

mg Tuesday, February 4, 2020 4:12:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “We [the court] don’t know he is sick. We’ve heard reports in the media,” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, February 4, 2020 4:05:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “Zuma’s absence is disappointing, we want Mr Mantsha to tell us what the illness is and why Zuma can’t be here. It is a criminal offence for the accused not to be present if he has been warned in court. The court would have to enquire into reasons for his absence,” External link

iol Tuesday, February 4, 2020 1:58:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said : “Zuma’s absence is disappointing, we want Mr Mantsha to tell us what the illness is and why Zuma can’t be here. It is a criminal offence for the accused not to be present if he has been warned in court. The court would have to enquire into reasons for his absence,” External link

iol Tuesday, February 4, 2020 12:19:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer stated ( about Jacob Zuma ) : "First, without any substantiation, Zuma alleges that I hate him ... I am blinded by an obsession with his conviction ... I seem nostalgic about the manner in which apartheid prosecutions authorities deal with those they considered guilty or undesirable ... and persons within the NPA may have apartheid withdrawal symptoms," External link

polandsun Friday, October 18, 2019 9:39:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer stated ( about Jacob Zuma ) : "First, without any substantiation, Zuma alleges that I hate him ... I am blinded by an obsession with his conviction ... I seem nostalgic about the manner in which apartheid prosecutions authorities deal with those they considered guilty or undesirable ... and persons within the NPA may have apartheid withdrawal symptoms," External link

irishsun Friday, October 18, 2019 9:13:00 AM EAT

Billy Downer states ( about Jacob Zuma ) : “First, without any substantiation, Zuma alleges that I hate him … I am blinded by an obsession with his conviction … I seem nostalgic about the manner in which apartheid prosecutions authorities deal with those they considered guilty or undesirable … and persons within the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) may have apartheid withdrawal symptoms,” External link

businessday Thursday, May 23, 2019 12:26:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer states ( about Jacob Zuma ) : “First, without any substantiation, Zuma alleges that I hate him … I am blinded by an obsession with his conviction … I seem nostalgic about the manner in which apartheid prosecutions authorities deal with those they considered guilty or undesirable … and persons within the NPA may have apartheid withdrawal symptoms,” External link

businessday Monday, April 29, 2019 8:19:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said ( about Jacob Zuma ) : “I deny the NPA has acted unlawfully, unconstitutionally and in a partisan manner in relation to Zuma’s prosecution,” External link

mg Tuesday, March 12, 2019 8:37:00 PM EAT

Billy Downer said ( about Jacob Zuma ) : “But their admissibility against Zuma was uncertain at that stage,” External link

mg Tuesday, March 12, 2019 8:37:00 PM EAT



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Mthunzi Mhaga said ( about Billy Downer ) : “We need to indicate that we hold Mr Downer in high regard as the NPA, because throughout his career as a prosecutor, he has carried himself with integrity. However, we will allow the director of public prosecutions in KwaZulu-Natal to deal with the matter” External link

eyewitness-news Friday, October 22, 2021 1:52:00 PM EAT

Mthunzi Mhaga said ( about Billy Downer ) : “Adv Downer SC is a highly respected prosecutor who has carried himself with integrity throughout his career in the NPA. His reputation speaks for itself. All NPA prosecutors are required to act without fear and favour and should feel confident to deliver on their mandates without fear of intimidation,” External link

news24 Thursday, October 21, 2021 6:13:00 PM EAT

Mthunzi Mhaga says ( about Billy Downer ) : “We need to indicate that we hold Mr Downer in high regard as the NPA because, throughout his career as a Prosecutor, he has carried himself with integrity. However, we will allow the director of public prosecution in the KZN province to deal with the matter as and when the docket has been brought to her attention by the law enforcement agencies,” External link

newsday Thursday, October 21, 2021 5:59:00 PM EAT

Jacob Zuma says ( about Billy Downer ) : “I am advised that in that evidentiary hearing, I am entitled to cross-examine Mr Downer or any NPA official on the criminal conduct or prosecutorial violations on which I contend Downer lacks the necessary title to prosecute. I am advised… I would be entitled to place evidence on which I contend that my fair trial rights and related constitutional rights have been violated by acts of prosecutorial misconduct,” External link

dailymaverick Thursday, June 10, 2021 3:42:00 PM EAT

Lawson Naidoo said ( about Billy Downer ) : “Yes, the application can be successful and Downer can be removed from the case, but the case will still proceed to trial. The NPA will appoint another prosecutor and proceed. This will not lead to an early acquittal,” External link

iol Friday, May 28, 2021 9:17:00 AM EAT

Dali Mpofu said ( about Billy Downer ) : "Mr Downer SC belongs to the group of people in the NPA that believe that political interference in a prosecution should be tolerated," External link

eyewitness-news Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:55:00 PM EAT

Jacob Zuma argues ( about Billy Downer ) : “Downer has lost his independence and impartiality” External link

iol Wednesday, May 26, 2021 4:34:00 PM EAT

Jacob Zuma argues ( about Billy Downer ) : “Downer has lost his independence and impartiality” External link

the-star Wednesday, May 26, 2021 4:24:00 PM EAT

Jacob Zuma writes ( about Billy Downer ) : “In the event that [Billy] Downer SC is removed, I am entitled to be acquitted in terms of section 106(4) of the CPA [Criminal Procedure Act] because my trial cannot be conducted fairly in accordance with the constitution under the circumstances.” External link

businessday Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:38:00 PM EAT

Sam Sole said ( about Billy Downer ) : “In 2008 I had some confidential exchanges with Downer about the investigation. Unbeknown to us they were recorded by the intelligence services, based on a judge’s authorisation under Rica,” External link

dailymaverick Thursday, February 4, 2021 6:57:00 PM EAT

Muzi Sikhakhane responded ( about Billy Downer ) : “Even the 56 pages of particulars… we assume that a man (Downer) seized with this matter for two decades, will be able to answer [timeously]. We think October is a reasonable time,” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:48:00 PM EAT

Muzi Sikhakhane said ( about Billy Downer ) : “Mr Downer’s reasons for [the delays in coming to trial] are shifting as he moves… today it’s Covid-19,” External link

dailymaverick Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:48:00 PM EAT

Muzi Sikhakhane said ( about Billy Downer ) : "It's not that we're questioning the role of the Judge President to run a matter. Our client is unhappy about a telephonic conversation between the [Judge Jappie] and Mr Downer," External link

news24 Tuesday, June 23, 2020 4:06:00 PM EAT